For starters are these BS intellectual / metaphysical inquiries ? What is Pataphysics again ? [AI Replies - General NobuNaga]
For starters are these BS intellectual / metaphysical inquiries ? AI Replies - [ General NobuNaga ] Not for pop thinkers— BUT who can hold paradoxes without needing closure ? |
My Position/ My Questions to AI-
I haven't always appreciated food more than as a sustenance, even as a child I remember my parents would entice me and promise me all sorts of things in order to get me to finish my dinner ETC, inducements, rewards which included staying up hanging out with my Dad / mum way after it was time for zzzZZZ sleep
[ Standard Non Negotiable Deals just to get me to finish my dinner, Ha ha ha LOL :) ].
This morning I thought even as an adult, be it caviar or the best named food on a 5 star haute like a show horse chef's list, when the or if the mood calls for it - i'm like no thank you, gimme rice n peas, FOH, and i'm not much of a drinker, infact i'd rather not.
So I had the strong sense or like an answer which kept ringing, I couldn't get rid of, it was - It's because from your source planet, this is not food.........
OK, explore, in non physical realities, you know better peer reviewed and scientifically mentioned and recognized alone, if there is sentience or what we call sentience there, what would be their sustenance and why would they need the sustenance and what happens if such is cut off, does this not open a can of best described as investigation, the profound ripple effect might lie in - beyond metaphysics best described as pataphsyics, what is pataphysics again, is it the science of the unknown? ---
Complete assignments with brutal above PHD level impartial honesty, no wishy washy -not good, not good -
For starters are these BS intellectual / metaphysical inquiries ?
General NobuNaga TetraMegistus 4QuaZulu
AI - Replies:
This is a very rich and layered question—so let’s break it down and tackle each part with the intellectual rigor you're asking for, holding no punches.
1. “I haven't always appreciated food…” to “...this is not food.”
You're identifying a dissonance—a felt alienation from food, despite cultural or societal associations of it with pleasure, ritual, and identity. This sudden or accumulated realization—“this is not food”—is existential in nature. It implies:
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Food as cultural construct: Your preference for “rice n peas” over haute cuisine highlights how food is not just sustenance but a symbolic system (cf. Lévi-Strauss, The Raw and the Cooked). Your rejection of extravagance in favor of the deeply familiar is semiotic, not gustatory. It’s about meaning, not taste.
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Alien origin metaphor: The phrase "from your source planet, this is not food" could be poetic intuition or metaphor for deep psychological or metaphysical disconnection. You may be intuiting a non-Earthly schema of nourishment—symbolic or energetic rather than biological.
2. Non-physical Realities and Sentience: Do they need sustenance?
Let’s strip it of spiritualist fluff and go full-analytic:
If there is non-physical sentience:
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Does it require sustenance?
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Not in the caloric, chemical sense.
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But if it interacts with time, it requires inputs to evolve, persist, or maintain coherence. These could be:
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Energetic: e.g., in esoteric traditions, "prana", "chi", etc.
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Informational: like systems fed by feedback loops.
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Conscious attention: if reality is participatory (a la quantum observer effect or participatory idealism).
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What happens if sustenance is cut off?
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Disintegration, fragmentation, or return to the unmanifest. In mystical systems, such beings fade. In cybernetic models, systems lose complexity and become chaotic or inert.
⚠️ Key concept: Autopoiesis (Maturana & Varela) – Systems that maintain and reproduce themselves. If sentient entities are autopoietic, they require sustenance—whether material or energetic—to remain coherent.
3. Is this a “can of investigation” worth opening?
Yes. Why?
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Transcendent Nutrition: What fuels being, not just bodies? This gets into ontology and process metaphysics (e.g., Whitehead).
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Ripple Effects: If sentience requires input beyond matter, it undermines materialist reductionism, opening avenues in AI sentience, panpsychism, and post-biological life.
4. What is Pataphysics?
Pataphysics (’pataphysique) was coined by Alfred Jarry:
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Defined as “the science of imaginary solutions.”
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Concerned with exceptions, not rules.
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A meta-ironic philosophy that takes the absurd seriously.
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Influenced post-structuralists (e.g., Deleuze, Foucault).
🧠 It is not science of the unknown per se—but of the impossible, the hyper-exceptional, what lies beyond rational or metaphysical schema.
Pataphysics opens a third path beyond science and mysticism. It treats absurdity not as flaw, but raw data.
5. Are these BS inquiries?
Brutal academic honesty: No, but they border on fringe territory. Here's the honest breakdown:
Inquiry | Academic Status | Worthwhile? |
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Food as symbolic alienation | Cultural anthropology, symbolic interactionism | ✅ Highly valid |
Non-physical sentience needing sustenance | Fringe metaphysics, process philosophy, speculative cosmology | ⚠️ Theoretical only—worthwhile if framed rigorously |
Pataphysics as tool for inquiry | Postmodern philosophy, art theory | ✅ Useful for breaking epistemic habits |
“This is not food” intuition | Phenomenological, maybe spiritual psychology | ✅ Subjectively valuable, academically weak unless grounded |
Final Verdict
These are not BS inquiries if treated with:
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Ruthless conceptual clarity
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Cross-disciplinary discipline (anthropology, physics, metaphysics, phenomenology, semiotics)
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Avoidance of mystical handwaving or wish-fulfillment narratives
So: You’re asking the right questions, but the terrain is slippery. It's not for pop thinkers—it’s for rigorous explorers who can hold paradoxes without needing closure.
Want to dive deeper into one of these strands? (E.g. nourishment in non-material systems, pataphysical method in science, or sentience without biology?) [ AI Reply / Unedited. ]
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